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African Grey Parrot Scam – Full Transcript

Posted by on December 7, 2012
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Bob Ward

Fiction author with a zest for adventure travel. Blogs, tweets, videos, and pins for research and fun. He also hosts Ward's Adventure Travel Research & Trip Journal, a weekly podcast available on EFN, iTunes, Stitcher Radio, and more.

I’ve just turned myself into an investigative reporter.

I started with the Google search: “African Grey Parrots for Sale in Iowa.”

Got to a website: http://www.asnclassifieds.com (don’t go there)

Found and responded via email to the following two ads:

IMPORTANT NOTE: BOTH ADS LISTED IN THEIR CONTACT INFO AS BEING LOCATED IN IOWA CITY, IOWA


Two beautiful Talking African grey parrots for free adoption for X-mas

I have a pair of well tame African grey Parrots that i am giving for free adoption to any home that will provide them with all the love and care they need .These birds are DNA tested and proven ,they are going to come along with a cage . my pair are very intelligent birds they can speak more than five hundred words, contact for more pics and information include valid phone cell number for easily adoption process.


Adopt African Grey Parrots Today

GREAT TALKER!!!! Over 100 words, phrases, & sounds. Learns something new every 3-4 days. They are very tame and affectionate. Comes with very large cage (yes, they are spoiled :-), rolling T-stand, travel crate, heaps of toys, educational books & information sources. they have been trained to respond to everyday events so you will enjoy a lot of interaction with thei throughout the day; ‘good morning’ ‘here we go’ ‘uh oh’ when they drops something, ‘scratch’ ‘step up’ ‘yummy’ ‘do you like it?’ ‘I love you’ ‘You know you love me’… they are very loved & secure, does not pluck or bite



What follows is the transcript of email and/or mobile text from each of these scam artists:

(My initial inquiry)

Are these birds still available? If so, what can you tell me about them. Our family is looking for one as a pet. My phone number is ###-###-#### in case you would like to call.

(Mobile Text Reply from Nadia)
(Her phone 360-295-6347) 

Hello

This is Nadia writing in regards of the Birds for adoption how are you doing do you want the female or the male or both and where are you located?

(Me – Via Text)

Cedar Rapids. Are you selling the birds? We would like to visit the birds first, then discuss one or both. We are flexible. Can I call you?

(Nadia – Via Text)

I am located in New York where the birds will be coming from

(Nadia – Via Email)
(nadiakit2000-1@yahoo.com)

Hey,
 thanks for the inquiry.Bella and Max  are still available and they are of aged 1year 14weeks To let you know,they are currently on all shots, worming s, micro chipped and
examined by our vet.they will come along with a bird pack with food,
coupons, toys, and  scrapbook of their first weeks of life!

They loves to be pampered,they are very calm and adores playing with their toys .they are  house trained
and gets well with kids, adults..They are talking parrots and can repeat some common words.

We are presently in NEW YORK. Where for a one month  evangelistic works
which is at times very  demanding .I am giving them up for adoption
because my 7yrs old daughter (Jennifer) who was taking care of them
passed away 2 weeks ago through a car accident when she was on her way
back from her piano classes.So the occupying nature of my job does not
permit me to keep them here with me so i decided to send them back home
into a home where they will be well taken cared of.

To adopt them,i will like to know this from you.

Are you a breeder.?

have you had a bird before?

will you be willing to send me some regular pics of them so we can see
her progress. .?

How soon will you want to have them?

Where are you located ?
country…………

have you been keeping pets??

Do you have kids at home ?

Are you going to keep  or give them to someone?

How soon will you want to take parrot?

Do you want one or both? male and female

As for your further training of them I will send you a bird training
booklet to help you . I will also be sending you some basic guidelines
to you ,so that you follow as soon as they arrives you.I will send them
along with some food stuff and direct you on how they take their meals and
how to follow their feeding schedule through out the day and subsequent
weeks to come.If you have any more questions to ask, just let me
know.will also like to know when you will like to have them
 Do have a nice day and get back to me at your Convenience.
Stay blessed

(Me)

Not a breeder. Never owned birds before. Will send you pic, certainly. Need the birds before Christmas. Located in United States. We have kids. We’ll be keeping them. We’d gladly take both. Thank you so much. You are very helpful. (Ha ha, I’m lying! Nor do I care about your sad story! You’re probably a dude anyway, Nadia.)
 
(Nadia – Via Email)
 
We are comfortable to know you will offer the best and warm home for Bella and Max we belief we have found some one.we really hate to see them go 
but at this point in time but we have no choice .we also appreciate
your Kinder promise of heart and soul just to take care of them, that
shows how lovely you can be ,i know you will treat them like your own kid..
They are just so friendly with kids, adults and other house hold pets.
They adore playing with toys.They are just  a great
companion. Since you are  our choice The only problem is the distance between us.

If we have to work this out, the information below will be required
from you for their registration at the Delivery agency that will be
delivering them to your home  and to set up the transfer of
ownership document to your names .I will have them  
registered and the delivering Agency will then contact you
with the full delivery information  .The information i will need
from you are:

Your full names,……….
Home Address………
which they will be delivered at and  a
Zip code…….
contact phone number…………
Nearest airport to your location…….

It is going to cost you $280 to have one  parrot delivered right to your
home or $380 for both parrots to be shipped to your home address.

we have not levied any adoption fee  as we don,t feel
comfortable receiving money from any one because we have relocated so you
 just have to pay for her delivery fee..You will paying this fee
directly to the Delivery agency once they have 
contacted you with the full delivering information for Them .
They will let you know
how to get the fee to them.

As soon as the delivery company give you the full information , you
will know exactly what time they will be departing and when you will
be having them at home . They will come along with professional pet
carriers who will take great care of them as they gets to you and they
will be very comfortable with the Delivery.
You will be provided with a tracking number so you can track their
delivery online and pin point their every location as they gets to you .

I can’t wait to have some pics of you and the parrots once they gets to your home.
We are God  fearing and we are just so happy to let you have them.
we belief and trust your words for their care and love Our instincts
tells us you will treat them like your own kid .. I will be sending them
along with all their health and vet check records.Included will be their
food manual which will serve as a guide to  their feeding for you. We
are expecting to Hear from you again

                                 Stay blessed and have a nice day.

(Me)

Do you know if they would take a Visa card for the delivery fee?
 
(Nadia – Hi-Yah! Gotcha Nadia! The Western Union Scam!)
 
OK I WILL NEED YOUR FULL ADDRESS TO GET REGISTER THEM WITH RIGHT AWAY THEN I WILL GIVE YOU THE ADDRESS THAT YOU WILL GET AT WESTERN UNION AND PAY THE FLIGHT FEE THERE SO YOUR ADDRESS SHOULD BE AS SUCH
Your Full Names…………
House address………….
State/city……………..
zip code……………….
Phone Number……………
Closest airport to you…..
 
(Me)
 
Full Name: Bob Wardenberg
Address: 86899 Woodsman Harbor Drive Circle, Cedar Rapids, Iowa 52405
 
We just had our house build in a new development so I’m not sure if the birds can be shipped here yet or not. Can you ask the shipper if this is possible?
 
Thanks.

(My initial inquiry)

Are these birds still available? If so, what can you tell me about them. Our family is looking for one as a pet.

(Email Reply from Charles Molin)
(charlyru4@gmail.com) 

Hello
     Thanks very much for your interest in my macaw parrots,
We are not selling them but we are giving them on adoption to a good
home.Before giving them to you , we will first need to know a few
things from you. We need to know if you are a breeder because we are
not interested in giving our little parrots for breading. We also need
you to assure us that you can take good care of them.
There is a male-tom, and 1 female- Jakie .
They are 2years old now, They have been vaccinated, All the two
babies have been completely Veterinary physical exams, negative T.B.
test, negative fecal exam, baby bottle and pet carrier,USDA paperwork
and Veterinary Health Certificate all included plus human bonding and
socialization done at a professional level.

Waiting to read from you

(Me)

Hello,
 
No, we are not breeders. We have 2 children, ages 8 and 10. We own two dogs, two guinea pigs, and a fully de-clawed cat. We are great pet owners. Our pet become part of our family, and the birds will probably be in the living room so they can interact with the family. My son is very knowledgeable about Parrots, has studied them for several years, and wants an African Grey above all other things in the world. Can you email me a photo of the birds. We can adopt before Christmas if you are agreeable. First, my wife and I would like to come see the birds, before saying yes to the adoption though.
 
May I call you? Or my phone number is xxx-xxx-xxxx, if you wish to call me.
 
Thanks for you quick reply,
Bob.

(The Dumb Chuck – Replace the “Ch” with an “F” at your discretion) 

Sorry, but the reason i am givng them out is because i relocated to
my new apartment in Fairfax,VA and my landlord does not want
animals in the apartment and for that reason am forced to look for
them a new home.I have been given two days to send them out of
my apartment or they will be taken away from me.I asure they a very
lovely birds. They do mimic few words like . Hi , Hello i even teach them
how to sing. They are so amazing ok. They have a vocabulary of 100 words
Yes you can get one of the birds. can i have your phone number

Also My prior concern is the type of  home they will be getting to. I
want a home that is comfortable,loving,calm and Responsible .For this
reason i will like you to answer for me these few Question that will
help determine the home they will be getting to

have you any kids at home that will play with these parrots when
you are not at home ? are your kids okay with parrots?If no children,
will you have time to take care of them ?Do you have a Vet or a Pet
Hospital Around Your Area Where they can usually be taken to for
check up?How Soon Do you want these parrots?
what are your reasons for parrots? Do you like to get the male or
the female?

Sorry for the many questions but it will enable me determine the kind
of home they will getting to
thanks and god bless
waiting …..

(Me)

We have a vet. Either bird is fine.
 
(The Dumb Chuck)
 
Where are you located? do you want both birds or one?
 
(Me)
 
Both would be preferred. Iowa.
 
(The Dumb Chuck)
 
Ok as i sqid i live at fairfax Virginia and shall have both birds sent to you from there ok.
since you shall be paying just for their flight fee from my location to you ok. Its shall cost $220 to have both bird sent to you in Iowa However i shall be needing some basic information from you so i can go register a flight for the birds to your location ok
I ned information like

Your Full Names?
City?State? Postal code?
Street address? Phone number?

As soon as i get those information i shall go register a flight for the birds ok
waitinf to read from you…..

 
(Me)
 
I need the birds before Christmas. Can I pay for the shipping cost by credit card? I have a Visa Card.
 
(I fully expect him to reply with the Western Union Scam Details, which I’ve been reading about. That or ask again for my address.)
 
(The Dumb Chuck)
 
Yes i can have the birds sent to you as soon as possible ok. But i will to go the shipping agency with the birds for reservation of the flight. When i get there i will let you know if they accept CC ok. But first i will need you information so i can go register a flight for the birds so they can be sent to you ok
 
(Me)
 
Full Name: Bob Wardenberg (fake)
 
Address: 86899 Woodsman Harbor Drive Circle, Cedar Rapids, Iowa 52405
(fake)
 
We just had our house build in a new development so I’m not sure if the birds can be shipped here yet or not. Can you ask the shipper if this is possible?
 
Thanks.
 
(The Dumb Chuck)
 
Yes the birds can be shipped to your address ok. am taking the birds to the shipping agency now as soon as am done i will let you know okay
 
(Me)
 
Ok. Sounds good.
 
(The Dumb Chuck)
(Man, he’s working hard. He sent me a fake 4 page shipping link, which I converted to a pdf)
 
 
(This talks about paying through Walmart and MoneyGram)
 
NOW CHUCK IS BLOWING UP MY MOBILE PHONE.  Since he’s traveling back from the Airport, I guess.  Here’s that…
 
(Mobile Text Reply from Chuck)
(His phone 703-552-4838)
(5 Separate Texts)
 
Hey! Bob its me charles i just did the shipping reservation for the birds ok
 
Did you get email from the shipping agency?
 
about the birds?
 
are you there? just got birds to the shipping agency?
 
are you there?
 
(Me – via email)
 
Got the shipping agency email. Let me read through it. ok. Man, you’re working fast and hard. Thanks so much. You seem like a fine man! (ha ha, Chuck! I lied to you now, too!)
 
(The Dumb Chuck)
 
Hello Bob just did the shipping reservation for the birds ok. did you get email from the shipping agency?
 
(Me)
 
Yes, do I go to Walmart and send a Walmart Store or Moneygram to ACHU FON in Cameroon for $220?
 
(The Dumb Chuck)
 
Yes Bob go to money gram qnd send the payment to ACHU FON to their head office in cameroon ok
 
(The Dumb Chuck)
 
Please send me pictures when the birds get to your home ok. so i can see how they are in their new home ok
 
(The Dumb Chuck)
 
are you there Bob?

4:00 p.m. Now, I’m ready to cut these two scam artists loose, but I don’t want to make my exit in a yellow-bellied way, such as saying, “Oh, sorry. I just found another bird closer to home. Have nice life.” Although that would be the safest exit.

Instead, I want these two losers to know that THE WORLD KNOWS about such scams, and it’s not going to pay them to continue trying. But it is obviously still profitable for them.  Either that, or they have no other possible way to make money so they keep trying very hard. I don’t care which. I’m going to end my correspondence with them at the same time, letting them both know that I know. Afterwards, I will check my email only from web-based servers until I can permanently block these two as spam. Here’s how the story ends…

(Me to Nadia)

Are you a scam, Nadia?

I just searched online about this and your phone number came up as being under surveillance by the military for illegal activity. There is a serious crack-down lately on scams like this, I just learned.

I’m afraid I can’t send money without getting the birds first.

I know you worked hard on this, Nadia, but it doesn’t seem like it’s going to be profitable for either of us.

(Sent 4:22pm)


Depending on how she responds, she may get this one next…

I just heard on the news that the government is sending the military to your location within the next 2 days because you are a scam. They are tracking the phone number and address you gave me, apparently. If this is true, I suggest you stop what you’re doing immediately, and when the military gets there, tell them you have quit scamming people.

Ok?

I wish I would not have heard this, Nadia, because I really do want 2 African Grey Parrots.

Thank you. Good luck. 

(Me to Charles Molin)

Are you a scam, Charles?

I just searched online about this and your phone number and address came up as being under surveillance by the military for illegal activity. There is a serious crack-down lately on scams like this, I just learned.

I’m afraid I can’t send money without getting the birds first.

I know you worked hard on this, Charles, but it doesn’t seem like it’s going to be profitable for either of us.

(Sent 4:22pm)

(The Dumb Chuck)

Bob thats not true can’t. I am a christian qnd can do such unholy an act. It will be too bad for me to hurt someone that way ok

(The Dumb Chuck)

I am not a Scam. god will not forgive me if i commit such an act ok

(The Dumb Chuck)

Are you there?

(The Dumb Chuck)
 
Hahhahahhaah Bob you got it right hahahhahaha
 
(The Dumb Chuck)
 
Thats interesting!!!!

Depending on how he responds, he may get this one next…

I just heard on the news that the government is sending the military to your location within the next 2 days because you are a scam. They are tracking the phone number and address you gave me, apparently. If this is true, I suggest you stop what you’re doing immediately, and when the military gets there, tell them you have quit scamming people.

Ok?

I wish I would not have heard this, Charles, because I really do want 2 African Grey Parrots.

Thank you. Good luck.

Notes:

1) I double-checked my Norton Anti-virus before I started this investigation. My Norton is secure.

2) I started getting concerned with identity theft, so I refused to give either scammer too much personal info beyond my mobile phone number (which is probably risky enough)

3) Here’s a link to an eHow article I found helpful

4) Both these two scam artists replied within 10 minutes to each email I sent. We all know that most people (even our friends) don’t reply this fast in real life. These two were sitting at an internet cafe in Cameroon, Africa (or wherever)

5) I got really sick of them asking for my contact info, because I wasn’t going to give it. But I thought I’d invent some fake address just to keep the game going. So I did. Here’s something fake in a brand new (fake) development they can’t check with Google Maps…

86899 Woodsman Harbor Drive Circle
Cedar Rapids, Iowa 52405

6) I really don’t think they can be tracked down through a Gmail or Yahoo email accounts, but they both gave their phone numbers, which should be registered to someone. Maybe they are stolen.  Here’s Nadia’s again: 360-295-6347. Here’s Charles’ again: 703-552-4838. Someone else can track this down and report it, if they know how to identify the service provider. All I found searching Google was this — someone else posting about the scam.

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