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021 Debate on Burning Garbage, 3 mil Ground Sheets, Flying or Driving, Brewery Stop, Snake In The Grass

Posted by on July 31, 2014
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Bob Ward

Fiction author with a zest for adventure travel. Blogs, tweets, videos, and pins for research and fun. He also hosts Ward's Adventure Travel Research & Trip Journal, a weekly podcast available on EFN, iTunes, Stitcher Radio, and more.

The first half of this episode, dad and I debate our differences of opinion. The second half is debate free.

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3 Responses to 021 Debate on Burning Garbage, 3 mil Ground Sheets, Flying or Driving, Brewery Stop, Snake In The Grass

  1. Paul

    Hi Bob,

    Just want to say that I’ve really enjoyed listening to your podcast over the past month. I’m preparing for a weeklong backpacking trip in the Rockies at the end of August and listening to you and your dad talk about equipment and practice hikes has helped to keep me motivated. Oddly enough, I stumbled across your show late one night while searching iTunes for podcasts about bear attacks and somehow found myself hooked. Your dad talking about bears NEVER gets old.

    Regarding your discussion on waste, I’m somewhere in between on this. I personally don’t have a problem with burning some garbage (paper, wrappers and such) in a campfire, but only if I have an actual campfire that will adequately incinerate the stuff. Burning stuff in a hole doesn’t strike me as a very good idea, but that may be because I live in California where we have to be *very* cautious with fire. But digging a hole, setting a small pile of garbage on fire and then making sure the fire is properly out (which would mean using some of your water) seems like way more effort than simply packing out a few Snicker’s wrappers.

    Your dad might be interested to know that in some parks they actually do require hikers to pack out human waste. These regulations are becoming more common in the more popular areas out west. I know the big mountain peaks like Rainer and Whitney have required this for a while because you have so many people converging on a very limited area. Also, materials take longer to decompose in desert climates and/or at higher altitudes.

    There are even special products for this:

    Anyway, keep up the great work and best of luck on your big hike!

    – Paul


    Some light trail reading for dad:

    • Bob Ward

      Man, Paul, it’s so great that you commented! I’m shocked that our podcast reached you clear out in California! I’m going to tell dad about your comments, and I’m sure he’ll be blown away that someone actually listens to this stuff besides our wives. If you’re on Google +, you can circle me. I’m trying to gather friends who hike, backpack, and camp. Peace.

  2. Dad Ward

    We are really glad to hear that someone is really listening. My wife will be so amused. My most most enjoyable sessions happen when we forget the microphones and start having fun with each other. (Sometimes a cold beer helps). We ordered a whole pitcher of really cold beer at the end of a really hot hike and we were well on our way to a very memorable time. We were saved by a loud band the brewery had hired to entertain.
    Your material on bears was nice but I have to avoid reading it. One of my sons watcher the movie “Jaws” and we couldn’t get him in the water again. We tease him about not taking baths anymore.

    Thanks for your input. We need that.
    David Ward (dad)

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