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001: Introductory Episode – Bob Ward and Dave Ward (Adventure Travel Research & Trip Journal)

Posted by on February 26, 2014
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Bob Ward

Fiction author with a zest for adventure travel. Blogs, tweets, videos, and pins for research and fun. He also hosts Ward's Adventure Travel Research & Trip Journal, a weekly podcast available on EFN, iTunes, Stitcher Radio, and more.

This episode (ABOVE) is an hour discourse between me and dad about the new podcast. When I walked into his cabin Monday morning with two microphones and a field recorder, he had no idea what I had in mind. But our first show turned out better than I could have hoped, which proves a truism most of us know – great minds think alike.

Since then, I’ve spent nearly 20 hours processing the audio, adding fantastic music to the beginning and end (both are so cool!), uploading the MP3 to my Libsyn media-hosting account, and setting up the infrastructure beneath this website’s hood to make that little player button (ABOVE) feed the universe the 1st podcast of our new weekly series entitled “Ward’s Adventure Travel Research & Trip Journal.” For an extra dash of spice, I’ve added the more-than-apt sub-title “Critical Studies on Active Living and World Exploration.”

The podcast has already been approved by iTunes (just start the podcast app on your iPhone or smart phone and search “Ward’s Adventure Travel”). It should also be available on Stitcher Radio before the end of the day (or by the end of this weekend). The Stitcher app is the most popular alternative to Apple’s podcast app, and I use both when listening to my favorite podcasts. Question: Have you ever listened to a podcast? It’s highly addictive. That said, if you enjoy travel talk, or if you’re just curious to know what dad and I (and sometimes honored guests) do at the riverfront cabin when the wine flows freely, please subscribe. Your positive comments on iTunes and/or Stitcher would be very helpful and greatly appreciated (thanks, mom!).

Here’s the new cover art for the podcast. I’m really happy with how this turned out.

I’m keeping comments open on (at the bottom of the post), so feel free to say whatever you want. Keep in mind, though, that spam is automatically filtered out, so classic chestnuts, like “Feeling flaccid? Try Viagra!”, might not get through. Try posting that over on Rick Steves’ blog. Have a great day!

Partial Show Transcript:

B – Okay, we’re recording now. Will you hand me that yellow sheet that I showed you. Thank you. I am Bob Ward.

D – And I am dad Ward.

B – Dad Ward, Dave Ward. And we are starting the Ward’s Adventure Travel Research and Trip Journal. This is a podcast that we’re going to be doing. And I’ve just told dad about it, and we’re going to discuss it and lay out our plan.

D – Okay…

B – Alright. So first of all, let’s introduce ourselves. I am Bob Ward and I am an adventure travel writer and author. I am 43 years old. I am married with two children. My children are aged twelve–he’s a boy–and ten–she’s a girl.

D – And I am David Ward. I am up indeterminate age. I have just barely gotten grey hair, and I have five children, who sometimes all still act like children, but, by and large, they’re pretty well grown up and on their own, with kids of their own, leaving me alone to die.

B – Yes…

D – And their mother also.

B – Alright. Well, the nice thing about dad is he’s got an awesome cabin, which is our man-cave here, and we’re going to use our man-cave for our weekly podcast. Is that agreeable to you?

D – So far…

B – Okay, so the idea here of Ward’s Adventure Travel Research and Trip Journal is we’re going to do a quarterly trip. An adventure trip. And we’ve done a couple of these in the past and they turn out great. Now what we’re going to do is record our research as we go, and then we’re going to do a trip journal, hopefully take the field recorder out during our trip and do some trip recording. You know, our impressions of the trip during the trip, and then when we get back we’ll do a final wrap up of that trip. So…with that said, do you have anything that you want to…

D – If you were on a bad trip, would you describe it as a bad trip? Would you say, “This trip sucks,”…?

B – I would think. If you remember back to when we did our mule trip (we did a mule trip last year, or the year before, up in Colorado). And we had some negative experiences, such as being stranded, and wild wolves or coyotes nearly ready to chaw off our legs…those types of things I wouldn’t necessary call bad trip experiences, but they certainly were some of the highlights of our trip, when we thought we were about to die.

D – Well, okay. So, you would describe it just as you’re feeling it then?

B – Yeah.

D – And rather than saying, “Oh, the guide got lost and left us alone out here with no real way to get back out,” we would say, “This is a little freaky.”

B – I think we would be honest. If our guide goes off into the woods and doesn’t return for four hours, like he did, I think we should say that. Like, “Look, we’re a little bit worried up here at twelve thousand feet, and it’s snowing, and it’s cold. We don’t have a radio cause our guide took off, and he hasn’t returned, so he’s out in the wilderness dead, with a broken leg, no coat, chasing our mules that got away because he failed to hobble them properly.” That is perfectly legitimate field notes that we ought to just make sure that we get recorded.

D – Okay, so then what kind of trips would we be taking?

B – That’s kind of the idea of this first introductory podcast. We’re going to discuss that. The only thing that I aim to do here is to get on a regular schedule where we do our quarterly adventure travel vacations. And where we go, or what we do, is going to have to be decided as we go along. So I guess we just pick the first thing that we want to do, start planning and researching it. We’ll get together once a week during our research and planning phase. We’ll talk about things as the trip planning progresses. And then we’ll go on the trip, do some field recording once we’re out there, come back, do a trip wrap up, impressions, etc., and then start off into our next trip. Now, that has been my thought as I was driving in. There’s a lot of other things that I think are important that we need to discuss as we go along.

D – Such as our wives?

B – What do you mean by that?

D – My wife has been bugging me to take a quarterly trip…a monthly trip…weekly trip…and I have been, ha ha ha, rather cool about this, this idea.

B – Well, you know what? She’s a Ward, so the whole point of this Ward’s Adventure Travel Research and Trip Journal includes Wards.

D – So we would take them along?

B – We don’t have to, but we could. I think that it’s fine. I mean, we’ve got a lot of Wards in our family and we can take mom, we can take my wife, Tricia, we can take my sisters, my brother, we can take my kids… This thing can never end, and that’s why I’m really excited about it. Kind of like a family adventure mechanism that we can use to plan our family adventures. There’s no reason that you can’t document your adventures with mom on a separate trip. If you want to go take a driving tour up to Oregon or Washington state, and get the romance brewing that way, then you can document that.

D – The romance would be me saying, “Get off me!” Ha ha.

B – Well, that’s up to you. You document your own experience. Whatever works for you.

D – Umm.

B – My idea is that it’s a broad vehicle for us to use to plan our trip. A lot of times we talk about wanting to do a regular trip, and I think a lot of people have that idea, that they want to get on a regular trip, but what fails is the weekly planning or some kind of a structure to the endeavor, and then months go by and you never get to go on a vacation, and you wake up and say, “You know, we always talked about doing that. Why didn’t we do it?”

D – Umm. Okay. Well, I think that’s not a bad idea, and that probably would be something that would enhance life if you…certainly, if you look back on our mule trip, the mule trip seems to be something we look back on with fond memories, in fact, our trip to Europe was the same way.

B – Now, it would have been really nice to have had this podcasting equipment for those trips, as well. Especially the Europe trip, seventeen days traveling across Europe, started in England and went to France, Germany, Switzerland…

D – Yeah, we came through Switzerland

B – And then down into Italy. And we had a great time, seventeen days worth of travel, and no documentation.

D – Only vague memories.

B – And photos. But that was when…1996, I believe. And now we’ve got this great thing called podcasting, and blogs. So, I’ve got this blog called, and that’s my mechanism, you know, up till this point, to kind of do some research–it’s my personal journals converted into an online format–and all the original idea for is really to give me a way to plan my novels that I’m writing, which few people in our family actually know that I’ve done that. Laura knows, and you know, Tricia knows. But might as well let everybody be aware of it right now. Kip Stone novels. Epic Adventures, Inc. He works for an adventure travel company, and he takes clients around the world on various trip, and he has adventure and misadventures with that. And those are novels. And I’ve got four of those written. Two of them our edited and published. You can find them on or Barnes and Noble. And so has always been my way of doing some research and recording things that I would then use in the novels. But when we when on our mule packing trip, I originally wanted to do that particular trip because the real experience of the trip adds a lot of dimension to the story, and I really felt incompetent to write a mule packing story–and I’m talking about Mountain Cabin here, which you’ve read–but after the trip, I felt so much more in touch with the scenery, the experiences, and at that point, then I wrote the novel. So I had done probably two months worth of research, then actually went into the field and experienced that type of trip before I wrote the novel. And that novel came off fairly easy because I had done that much research and actually got out into the field. And the previous novel, Sea Turtles–A Kip Stone Adventure related to scuba diving–I used a trip that Tricia and I took to Bonaire, an excuse to research–we got to take a trip out of it–and I used that trip planning. We actually had to get certified for scuba diving, and I needed all of that as research for the novel. So doing these trips is important to me on many levels. First, as research for the novels, but, more importantly, as just a lifelong plan to get out and be active and do some traveling, but those are pretty much the only objectives I have.

D – S o do we carry these around with us all the time, or what? How would we get these things recorded?

B – You mean the podcasting equipment. We’ve got two microphones We’ve got a Tascam field recorder here. And I would imagine it doesn’t take much room in a back to put these in there. And, yeah, I’d say take them along. And I would think that at the end of the day, we could do a recording of our thoughts and impressions from the day.

D – You know, I saw a travel log that someone had done, where they went…

B – Hey, put the mike right up here, would you? There you go. That really helps.

D – …to South America. And he took along a miniature dvd recorder, and he held it out like this.

B – Out to the side?

D – He held it to the side, and so this whole time he was holding, he was his own camera man. And he talked into it just like a documentary, and he was leaning back, like this, like he was looking over his shoulder, and there he was…he had his camera there. So I would think that you could do something. The other thing that you could do is…do a helmet mounted type cameras.

B – GoPros.

D – Do what?

B – Those GoPro cameras. It’s just a small little camera.

D – Yeah, yeah, a small little camera. And that would probably be better for just showing the general scenery, but occasionally you could take off your thing and talk into the camera and say, “This sucks,” or “This is really great.”

B – Yeah, the nice thing about having somebody else with you on your trip, as opposed to doing solo trips, is you can actually have a camera operator do a little interview, and we did this. When we were up in the tent there at twelve thousand feet, we did this with just a regular camera. And it had the ability to record movies, and one of my best memories is what we did on that video camera, where I asked you, “Dad, what do you think of what’s happening here with our guide being lost and all this…?” And you just went on with like a ten minute story, gave your impressions, and expressed your concerns over our predicament. And we got all on video, and that’s one of my best memories of that trip.

D – We do? I don’t even recall it.

B – We have that video at home.

D – Really…

B – It’s probably uploaded, but I remember…

D – On YouTube somewhere? Ha ha.

B – You were trying to be so cool with your Sudoku, just concentrating on your Sudoku, and I was freaking out because we heard those wolves out there. And so then I went back into the tent, and it was raining, and I said, “Dad, we need to get your impressions,” and that’s when you put down your Sudoku, and you took off your reading glasses, got real serious, and laid out a ten minute scenario of exactly our situation. Do you remember any of that?




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2 Responses to 001: Introductory Episode – Bob Ward and Dave Ward (Adventure Travel Research & Trip Journal)

  1. deb peterson

    well it looks like I’m going to have to buy your books. when you to get to gether it’s way too funny and always an adventure.

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